Quite a few years ago, Cate Mackenzie had the privilege of talking to former supermodel, writer, poet, actress and patron of many charities, Jerry Hall. What a wonderful insightful woman she is. The recording has been dusted off the shelf for you to enjoy in this podcast episode.
![Jerry Hall](https://catemackenzie.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/jerry-hall-web.jpg)